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E26 – Watering the Seeds of Healing

What do you do when you, or the person you are discipling needs healing?  We all know that only God can bring real healing, but what can we do to water the seeds of healing that God has planted there?

In this episode, we are talking about counseling.  Sometimes we give it, other times we need to receive it, and still other times a professional counselor can be very useful at helping bring emotional and spiritual healing.

To some people, getting counseling is like admitting they are weak or that there is something wrong with them. (Which is actually true for all of us.)  It’s like there is a stigma with going to a professional counselor.  The fact is, we all either have gone through or will go through difficult times, and so will the people we disciple.  We may or may not need a professional counselor, but let’s weigh our options carefully and see what resources God provides.  One of those resources might be professional Christian counselors.

 

E25 – Stop Praying Stupid Prayers and other disciple making resources

In this episode, we wanted to share some other disciple making resources. As John Kelsey mentioned a few weeks ago it really does take a village to make a disciple. I (James) wanted to share with you some of the other resources I use. Also, I wanted to talk about something I heard on “Revitalize and Replant” about praying stupid prayers and how we can pray powerful prayers instead.

There are lots of resources.  Here are some I like.

www.discipleship.org – Sign up for the National Disciple Making Forum in Nashville, TN October 25-26th.  Also, tons of great resources, ebooks, a podcast, and more.

www.thomrainer.com/revitalize-replant/ – This podcast is all about strengthening and replanting stagnant and dying churches. Its got some really good wisdom from personal experience. Its useful to anyone in a stagnant or dying church, but specifically the pastor or other leadership. It is also useful if you are in a healthy church and would like to help a dying church near you.

E24 – Being Teachable and Finding People to Disciple in Your Church – Kevin Braddock

Today we’re speaking with Kevin Braddock about being teachable and about finding people to disciple in his church. Kevin has been discipled and has been discipling people for 20 years. He also has one mentor who has been discipling him for 10 years. Kevin shares some very practical things he does in order to remain teachable.  He also shares some of the ways he goes about finding people to disciple in his church and the ways he uses his time in church intentionally. Listen up, and you can do the same.

E23 – John Kelsey on Developing Generations of Intentional Disciplemakers (part 2)

Today we are continuing our talk with John Kelsey on the things necessary to develope multiple generations of intentional disciple makers.  You can see his entire post below. Today, we will be focusing on the last 3 points. And, by the way, you need to rely a lot more on the Holy Spirit than you do right now.

JOHN’S POST

I really thought that I had a robust understanding of intentional disciplemaking. You can’t spend 26 years around Max and Sandra Barnett as a student and staff member without growing exponentially! I could not be more thankful for being a part of their legacy!

At the same time, I am just beginning to realize the vast depth of developing generations of intentional disciplemakers. Two environments over the last few years are shaping my thinking:

1. Developing generations of disciplemakers in the local church, particularly one focused on serving the poor and disenfranchised.

2. Developing generations of disciplemakers in a diverse professional demographic that includes the technical trades, military, law, engineers, and graduate students.

These two environments have led me to several conclusions:

1. Developing generations of disciplemakers to be fruitful over the long haul is much more difficult, and takes longer, than I understood it to be. There are no shortcuts to developing lifetime laborers for the Kingdom. You need to know what you’re doing and not give up. You also need to rely a lot more on the Holy Spirit than you do right now.

2. Developing generations of disciplemakers to be fruitful over the long haul requires a greater degree of varied community input than I understood it to be. Tribalism and the inability to connect disciples to a larger movement are enemies to developing lifetime laborers for the Kingdom. You need to help people contextualize the Great Commission in a much broader community. You also need to rely a lot more on the Holy Spirit than you do right now.

There’s a lot more that I’m chewing on, but I don’t have enough coffee to keep writing.

***UPDATED***
4.23.18

Well, I’ve made another pot of Ethiopian Jimma. Time to keep going!

3. Developing generations of disciplemakers to be fruitful over the long haul requires a regular re-examination of ministry tools. We are in ministry information overload in this country right now. For those of us in full-time ministry, there is a combination of boredom with doing the same thing over and over and pressure to create something new to offer the Kingdom. The vast majority of lifetime laborers do not make their living from the Gospel. They need simple, consistent ministry tools that they have had time to master in multiple contexts. Those of us leading disciplemaking ministries must offer ongoing ‘technical support’ for these ministry tools instead of focusing on the latest book or illustration. You also need to rely a lot more on the Holy Spirit than your favorite ministry tools.

4. Developing generations of disciplemakers to be fruitful over the long haul requires a much greater commitment on my part than I understood it to be. The temptation is to focus on creating communities with powerful disciplemaking momentum. However, as much as we need these communities to reinforce biblical principles, we cannot effectively develop lifetime laborers for the Kingdom apart from one-on-one training. Those of us leading disciplemaking ministries must model the process and outcomes we want to see in the individual. You also need to rely a lot more on the Holy Spirit than your ability to do one-on-one.

No kidding, I drank all of my coffee. I’ll write more later.

***UPDATED***
5.3.18

My next shipment from MistoBox has arrived. Thanks Jen for the Christmas present! This El Salvador Talmanica is fantastic!

5. Developing generations of disciplemakers to be fruitful over the long haul requires a much stronger commitment to prayer than I ever imagined. I always believed in prayer, and have practiced prayer throughout my ministry. However, the older I get, the more convinced I am of verses I memorized while in college: “Unless the Lord builds the house, they labor in vain who build it; unless the Lord guards the city, the watchman keeps awake in vain.” Psalm 127:1; “I am the vine, you are the branches; he who abides in Me and I in him, he bears much fruit, for apart from Me you can do nothing.” John 15:5. The pitfall of younger disciplemakers is to think that they are more in control of the growth process than the Holy Spirit.

6. Developing generations of disciplemakers to be fruitful over the long haul requires more encouragement and support than I understood it to be. The vision of intentional disciplemaking gripped my heart in college. Since then, I have never doubted this biblical mandate, and am committed to develop lifetime laborers regardless of the opinions of those around me. However, I have come to realize that I am exponentially more effective when I receive encouragement, support, and ongoing training to fulfill my calling. I taught on the importance of teams, but personally thought I had enough horsepower to get the job done with or without any help. I fundamentally misunderstood the biblical power of visionary community, and what others could offer to help me be more effective in the Kingdom. You see this clearly in Acts 2:42-46. I need to rely upon the Holy Spirit and His plan for developing lifelong laborers more than just my passion for making disciples.

I’m noticing my points are getting longer and longer. The caffeine must really be kicking in!

Today, we will be focusing on the last 3 points.

 

Bonus episode – Todd Tillman on discipling daughters

When I interviewed Todd earlier this summer, we found ourselves discussing what it was like to disciple his daughters. It didn’t fit in the discussion we were having for that episode, so I saved it as a bonus episode for now.

Other episodes with Todd:
Episode 16 Todd Tillman – Disciple making with a full time job – Part 1

Episode 17 Todd Tillman – Disciple making with a full time job – Part 2

 

 

E 22 – John Kelsey on Developing Generations of Intentional Disciplemakers (part 1)

A while back, I was on Facebook and saw a really well thought out post from John Kelsey on the struggles and challenges of developing multiple generations of intentional disciple makers. It was so good, I invited John on the podcast to flesh out his points a little more.  You can see his entire post below. 

JOHN’S POST

I really thought that I had a robust understanding of intentional disciplemaking. You can’t spend 26 years around Max and Sandra Barnett as a student and staff member without growing exponentially! I could not be more thankful for being a part of their legacy!

At the same time, I am just beginning to realize the vast depth of developing generations of intentional disciplemakers. Two environments over the last few years are shaping my thinking:

1. Developing generations of disciplemakers in the local church, particularly one focused on serving the poor and disenfranchised.

2. Developing generations of disciplemakers in a diverse professional demographic that includes the technical trades, military, law, engineers, and graduate students.

These two environments have led me to several conclusions:

1. Developing generations of disciplemakers to be fruitful over the long haul is much more difficult, and takes longer, than I understood it to be. There are no shortcuts to developing lifetime laborers for the Kingdom. You need to know what you’re doing and not give up. You also need to rely a lot more on the Holy Spirit than you do right now.

2. Developing generations of disciplemakers to be fruitful over the long haul requires a greater degree of varied community input than I understood it to be. Tribalism and the inability to connect disciples to a larger movement are enemies to developing lifetime laborers for the Kingdom. You need to help people contextualize the Great Commission in a much broader community. You also need to rely a lot more on the Holy Spirit than you do right now.

There’s a lot more that I’m chewing on, but I don’t have enough coffee to keep writing.

***UPDATED***
4.23.18

Well, I’ve made another pot of Ethiopian Jimma. Time to keep going!

3. Developing generations of disciplemakers to be fruitful over the long haul requires a regular re-examination of ministry tools. We are in ministry information overload in this country right now. For those of us in full-time ministry, there is a combination of boredom with doing the same thing over and over and pressure to create something new to offer the Kingdom. The vast majority of lifetime laborers do not make their living from the Gospel. They need simple, consistent ministry tools that they have had time to master in multiple contexts. Those of us leading disciplemaking ministries must offer ongoing ‘technical support’ for these ministry tools instead of focusing on the latest book or illustration. You also need to rely a lot more on the Holy Spirit than your favorite ministry tools.

4. Developing generations of disciplemakers to be fruitful over the long haul requires a much greater commitment on my part than I understood it to be. The temptation is to focus on creating communities with powerful disciplemaking momentum. However, as much as we need these communities to reinforce biblical principles, we cannot effectively develop lifetime laborers for the Kingdom apart from one-on-one training. Those of us leading disciplemaking ministries must model the process and outcomes we want to see in the individual. You also need to rely a lot more on the Holy Spirit than your ability to do one-on-one.

No kidding, I drank all of my coffee. I’ll write more later.

***UPDATED***
5.3.18

My next shipment from MistoBox has arrived. Thanks Jen for the Christmas present! This El Salvador Talmanica is fantastic!

5. Developing generations of disciplemakers to be fruitful over the long haul requires a much stronger commitment to prayer than I ever imagined. I always believed in prayer, and have practiced prayer throughout my ministry. However, the older I get, the more convinced I am of verses I memorized while in college: “Unless the Lord builds the house, they labor in vain who build it; unless the Lord guards the city, the watchman keeps awake in vain.” Psalm 127:1; “I am the vine, you are the branches; he who abides in Me and I in him, he bears much fruit, for apart from Me you can do nothing.” John 15:5. The pitfall of younger disciplemakers is to think that they are more in control of the growth process than the Holy Spirit.

6. Developing generations of disciplemakers to be fruitful over the long haul requires more encouragement and support than I understood it to be. The vision of intentional disciplemaking gripped my heart in college. Since then, I have never doubted this biblical mandate, and am committed to develop lifetime laborers regardless of the opinions of those around me. However, I have come to realize that I am exponentially more effective when I receive encouragement, support, and ongoing training to fulfill my calling. I taught on the importance of teams, but personally thought I had enough horsepower to get the job done with or without any help. I fundamentally misunderstood the biblical power of visionary community, and what others could offer to help me be more effective in the Kingdom. You see this clearly in Acts 2:42-46. I need to rely upon the Holy Spirit and His plan for developing lifelong laborers more than just my passion for making disciples.

I’m noticing my points are getting longer and longer. The caffeine must really be kicking in!

Today, we will be focusing on the first 3 points.

 

E21 – Reconciliation – Obeying the Commands of Jesus

Go and be reconciled with your brother.  It’s not an easy command to obey, but it is an important one. In obedience, we find peace and joy.  In this episode Dave shares about a recent experience where he needed to reconcile with his neighbors.

E20 Teaching them to Obey: The Commands of Jesus Matt 11:28-30

Jesus commanded us in the Great Commission to teach them to obey everything he had commanded. Today we are starting a new series about the different commands of Jesus and how we can apply them to our lives. How do we be better disciples? How do we help our people be better disciples through obedience?

This won’t be an ongoing series that happens every week, but it will be something that we come back to from time to time as we examine different commands of Jesus and wrestle with how to obey them in our lives.

E19 – Are we teaching the Bible or are we teaching about the Bible?

The Bible is the foundational Word of God, but are we actually teaching it to people or are we just teaching them about it? Are we leading them in a process of learning to hear from God as they read His Word, or are we just teaching them knowledge about the Bible?  If we are, where is our proof?  If we cannot point to where we can see evidence of them applying the word of God in their lives and being changed, then maybe we need to reevaluate how we are teaching the Bible.

 

Cigarettes in the church parking lot – Deep Water Short

Something to chew on today.  Go and be a disciple this week.  Go and make a disciple this week.

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